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SAS erbjuder inte fri ombokning vid involuntary schedule change 10 dagar efter mailet

Dr. Miles

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Inlägg från tråden http://www.businessclass.se/forum/s...-det-haer-gjorde-ni-sa-bra-28.html#post170883

Ja, jeg skjønte det, men jeg skjønner ikke logikken. En bedrift har sine regler ifht kundene sine, kundene har krav ihht. de regler og avtaler som er akseptert når man gjennomførte en handel. Det er jo rimelig søkt å mene det er "uakseptabelt" at en bedrift har ventetid i kundeservice-senteret, på bakgrunn av at en kundegruppe som en sjelden gang utsettes for en ombooking har en tidsfrist på seg. Det er bare litt far fetched for meg å trekke sånne paralleller som Dr.Miles gjør her. Litt barnslig nesten, om jeg tør påstå så.

Og bare så det er sagt: ja jeg synes også det er synd det er lang ventetid hos kundeservice. Det er en enkel sak å ha ansatt et par flere, for å få fortgang på det. Men å trekke fram at SAS har tidskrav på passasjerene sine som et negativt argument mot SAS' lange behandlingstid... It's just really out there. Særlig når SAS i stort sett ALLE tilfeller jeg har lest her gir en meget god kompensasjon når svaret først kommer, det er bare å se bakover i denne tråden og evt andre om kundeservicens lange ventetid.

Jag är inte bra på norska så det kan hända att missuppfattat ditt inlägg men min kollega har aldrig accepterat något villkor som säger att min kollega måste kontakta SAS inom 10 dagar från de har meddelat tidtabellsändring ifall det händer. Det nämns först i e-mail vid tidtabellsändring men inte när man köper biljett från SAS.se.

SAS e-mail skrev:
Om de nya tiderna inte passar, vänligen ta kontakt med oss så att vi kan se på alternativa lösningar.
Om vi inte har hört ifrån dig inom 10 dagar anser vi att du har accepterat den nya resan och att detta är vårt nya avtal med dig.
För övrig information hänvisar vi till SAS resevillkor (paragraf 9.1.2) på http://www.flysas.com/upload/CoC/CoC_Eng_February_2013.pdf

Innan man köper biljett på SAS.se, kan man klickla på regler och villkor och då får man följande text.
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Det står ingenstans att man måste kontakta SAS inom 10 dagar från de har meddelat tidtabellsändring.
SAS skrev:
Regler och villkor

Coupon sequence
The ticket is valid only for the transportation as shown on the ticket, from the place of departure ia any agreed

stopping places to the final destination. The ticket will not be honored and will lose its validity if all the coupons are

not used in the sequence provided in the ticket. More information can be found at Conditions of carriage.

Air carrier liability for passengers and their baggage
This information notice summarises the liability rules applied by Community air carriers as required by Community

legislation and the Montreal Convention.
Compensation in the case of death or injury
There are no financial limits to the liability for passenger injury or death. For damages up to 113’100 SDRs the air

carrier cannot contest claims for compensation. Above that amount, the air carrier can defend itself against a claim

by proving that it was not negligent or otherwise at fault.
Advance payments
If a passenger is killed or injured, the air carrier must make an advance payment, to cover immediate economic

needs, within 15 days from the identification of the person entitled to compensation. In the event of death, this

advance payment shall not be less than 16’000 SDRs.

Passenger delays
In case of passenger delay, the air carrier is liable for damage unless it took all reasonable measures to avoid the

damage or it was impossible to take such measures. The liability for passenger delay is limited to 4’694 SDRs.
Baggage delays
In case of baggage delay, the air carrier is liable for damage unless it took all reasonable measures to avoid the

damage or it was impossible to take such measures. The liability for baggage delay is limited to 1'131 SDRs.
Destruction, loss or damage to baggage
The air carrier is liable for destruction, loss or damage to baggage up to 1'131 SDRs. In the case of checked

baggage, it is liable even if not at fault, unless the baggage was defective. In the case of unchecked baggage, the

carrier is liable only if at fault.
Higher limits for baggage
A passenger can benefit from a higher liability limit by making a special declaration at the latest at check-in and by

paying a supplementary fee.
Complaints on baggage
If the baggage is damaged, delayed, lost or destroyed, the passenger must write and complain to the air carrier as

soon as possible. In the case of damage to checked baggage, the passenger must write and complain within seven

days, and in the case of delay within 21 days, in both cases from the date on which the baggage was placed at the

passenger's disposal.
Liability of contracting and actual carriers
If the air carrier actually performing the flight is not the same as the contracting air carrier, the passenger has the right

to address a complaint or to make a claim for damages against either. If the name or code of an air carrier is

indicated on the ticket, that air carrier is the contracting air carrier.
Time limit for action
Any action in court to claim damages must be brought within two years from the date of arrival of the aircraft, or from

the date on which the aircraft ought to have arrived.
Basis for the information
The basis for the rules described above is the Montreal Convention of 28 May 1999, which is implemented in the

Community by Regulation (EC) No 2027/97 (as amended by Regulation (EC) No 889/2002) and national legislation

of the Member States."
Conditions of Carriage, Baggage Allowances and Personal Data
Carriage and other services provided by the carrier are subject to conditions of carriage, which are hereby

incorporated by reference. These conditions may be obtained from the issuing carrier. For complete text of all

provisions applicable we refer to the SAS General Conditions of Carriage for Passengers and Baggage at

www.flysas.com. For the relevant rules regarding baggage allowances we refer to SAS Baggage Allowances at

www.flysas.com. Personal data which has been provided to us in connection with your travel may be passed to

government authorities for border control and aviation security purposes.

Notice of Overbooking of Flights
Airline flights may be overbooked, and there is a slight chance that a seat will not be available on a flight for which a

person has a confirmed reservation. If the flight is overbooked, no one will be denied a seat until airline personnel

first ask for volunteers willing to give up their reservation in exchange for a payment of the airline's choosing. If there

are not enough volunteers, the airline will deny boarding to other persons in accordance with its particular boarding

priority.
With few exceptions, persons denied boarding involuntarily are entitled to compensation. The complete rules for the

payment of compensation and each airline's boarding priorities are available at all airport ticket counters and

boarding locations. Some airlines do not apply these consumer protections to travel from some foreign countries,

although other consumer protections may be available. Check with your airline or your travel agent.

Notice of Incorporated Terms
Air transportation is subject to the individual contract terms (including rules, regulations, tariffs and conditions) of

transporting air carriers, which are incorporated by reference into every ticket for travel and made part of the contract

of carriage. Incorporated terms may include, but are not restricted to:

Limits on liability for personal injury or death

Limits on liability for baggage, including fragile or perishable goods and availability of excess valuation coverage

Claims restrictions, including time periods in which passengers must file a claim or bring action against the carrier

Rights of the air carrier to change terms of the contract

Rules on reconfirmation of reservations, check-in times, and refusal to carry

Rights of the air carrier and limits on liability for delay or failure to perform service, including schedule changes,

substitution of alternate air carriers or aircraft, and rerouting

You can obtain additional information on items 1 through 6 above at any U.S. location where the transporting air

carrier's tickets are sold. You have the right to inspect the full text of each transporting air carrier's rules at its airport

and city ticket offices. You also have the right, upon request, to receive free of charge the full text of the applicable

terms incorporated by reference from each of the transporting air carriers. Information on ordering the full text of each

carrier's terms is available at any U.S. location where the air carrier's tickets are sold.


Conditions of carriage for passenger and baggage som finns på SAS.se
Det är samma här. Det står ingenstans heller att man måste kontakta SAS inom 10 dagar från de har meddelat tidtabellsändring.

SAS Conditions of carriage for passenger and baggage skrev:
9.1 Schedules

9.1.1 The flight times shown in timetables may change between the date of publication and the date you actually travel.

9.1.2 Before we accept your booking, we or our Authorized Agents will notify you of the scheduled flight time in effect as of that time, and it will be shown on your Ticket. It is possible we may need to change the scheduled flight time subsequent to issuance of your Ticket. If you pro- vide us with contact information, we will endeavour to notify you of any such changes. If, after you make your reservation, we make a change to the scheduled flight time, which is not acceptable to you, and we are unable to book you on an alternate flight on us, which is acceptable to you, you will be entitled to a refund in accordance with Article 10.2. Furthermore we will be liable for any proven losses caused by our schedule change according to applicable law and the provisions of Article 15.4 will apply.

Angående lång väntetid på ärende:
Jag har i stort sett slutat kreditera andra Star Alliance flygbolags flygningar till SAS EuroBonus men när jag gjorde det förr, tog det väldigt lång tid att efterregistrera poäng. Efter 2 månader fick jag ett svar som sa att de inte kunde hitta flighten i systemet trots att jag flög trots att de fick mitt boardingkort. Hela ärendet tog nog 4-5 månader innan jag fick mina poäng.
 

olsson

Medlem

aldrighemma

Medlem
Jag tycker att vi kan lösa det här enkelt,vi gör det ömsesidigt!
SAS får också 10 dagar på sig att svara då det gäller customer care ärenden inkl SAS webshop!!!
 
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