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Fare rules "LH ARCSW" / "LX ARCSW"

SimonXYZ

Medlem
Varför kan jag inkludera sträckan MMX-ARN i fare rule "LH ARCSW" men inte "LX ARCSW"? När jag lägger dem bredvid varandra ser "LH ARCSW" och "LX ARCSW" mycket lika ut.

Jag har sökt på många datum med ITA matrix och på alla finns både ARN-FRA-HKG och MMX-ARN-FRA-HKG med "LH ARCSW" men bara ARN-ZRH-HKG (inte MMX-ARN-ZRH-HKG) med "LX ARCSW".


"LH ARCSW"
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"LX ARCSW"

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Senator

Moderator
Både Swiss (LX) och Lufthansa (LH) erbjuder MMX-HKG
ARCSW LH A Round-Trip 35120(SEK) F V / 12M
ARCSW LX A Round-Trip 35120(SEK) F V / 12M

Men routing regler för LX är väldigt märkliga. Kanske @Dr. Miles vet?
**** CONSTRUCTED ROUTING MMA-HKG/LX EF-14DEC18 DIS-INDEF
**ADDON ORG MMA EURG/4 PUBLISHED ROUTING 5002
**PUBLISHED STO-HKG EURG/4 PUBLISHED ROUTING 5002

LH regler:
**** CONSTRUCTED ROUTING MMA-HKG/LH EF-14DEC18 DIS-INDEF
**ADDON ORG MMA EURG/4 PUBLISHED ROUTING 5002
**PUBLISHED STO-HKG EURG/4 PUBLISHED ROUTING 5002

/WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. MMA-WF/SK/LH-TOS/STO/OSL/GOT/CPH/BLL/BGO-LH-ZRH/VIE/MUC/
GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-LH-SIN/SHA/
SGN/JKT/HKT/HKG/BKK/BJS-WE/VN/TG/SQ/PR/PG/OZ/NH/MI/MH/LH/
KA/JQ/HX/GA/CX/CI/CA/BR/BL/BI/9W/3K-HKG
2. MMA-WF/SK/LH-TOS/STO/OSL/GOT/CPH/BLL/BGO-LH-ZRH/VIE/MUC/
GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-LH-SHA/HKG/
BJS-LH/CX/CA-HKG
3. MMA-WF/SK/LH-TOS/STO/OSL/GOT/CPH/BLL/BGO-LH-ZRH/VIE/MUC/
GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-LH-HKG

Min tolkning är att det inte finns någon routing publicerat för LX. Ring Swiss eller Lufthansa för att boka och kolla med dom.
 

Senator

Moderator
Är detta den fare som generellt är billigast i revenue first?

Om man kan tänka sig att flyga från Paris finns t.ex. denna:

Visa bifogad bild 87440

"Most bang for the buck" i mitt tycke är denna ARN-SIN med Swiss/Lufthansa
ARCSW LH A Round-Trip 37405(SEK) F V / 12M
ARCSW LX A Round-Trip 37405(SEK) F V / 12M

Anledningar inkluderar:

STOPOVERS UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE OUTBOUND AND ON
THE INBOUND FARE COMPONENTS.


Lufthansa routing
/WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. STO-LH-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/
DUS/CGN-LH-SIN/SHA/SGN/JKT/HKT/HKG/BKK/BJS-WE/VN/TG/SQ/PR/
PG/OZ/NH/MI/MH/LH/KA/JQ/HX/GA/CX/CI/CA/BR/BL/9W/3K-SIN
2. STO-LH-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/
DUS/CGN-LH-SIN
3. STO-LH-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/
DUS/CGN-LH-BKK-TG/SQ/LH-SIN


Swiss routing
/WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. STO-LX-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/
DUS/CGN-LX-SIN/SHA/SGN/JKT/HKT/HKG/BKK/BJS-WE/VN/TG/SQ/PR/
PG/OZ/NH/MI/MH/LX/KA/JQ/HX/GA/CX/CI/CA/BR/BL/9W/3K-SIN
2. STO-LX-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/
DUS/CGN-LX-SIN
3. STO-LX-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/
DUS/CGN-LX-BKK-TG/SQ/LX-SIN

En bra rutt är t.ex. ARN-ZRH(LX)-FRA(LX)-HKG(LH)-stopover-SIN(SQ F). Jag har åkt denna med SQ F HKG-SIN-HKG ombord en B77W. Det ingår stopover ut och hem. Shanghai är också en rutt där SQ finns med B77W. Det finns tyvärr begränsningar kopplat till alla A388 flighter inom Asien med SQ

Alternate Airline (SINGAPORE AIRLINES (SQ))
>$LB20/SQ
020 STOSIN 07MAR19 LX SEK 37405 ARCSW STAY- V/12MBK-A
FARE CLS EXPLANATION BOOK CODES
-------- ---------------------- ----------
ARCSW FIRST CLASS EXCURSION FARES A
ARCSW BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
ARCSW FOR ADULT

BOOKING CODE EXCEPTIONS FOR CARRIER: SQ
VIA SQ NO BOOKING CODE DATA EXISTS FLTS
1000-9999
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ
VIA SQ L NOT PERMITTED FLTS 0001-0999
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-AKL FLT 0285
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ Z REQUIRED FROM SIN-AKL FLT 0285
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM AKL-SIN FLT 0286
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ Z REQUIRED FROM AKL-SIN FLT 0286
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-LON FLT 0308
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM LON-SIN FLT 0317
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM LON-SIN FLT 0321
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-LON FLT 0322
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM CDG-SIN FLT 0335
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-CDG FLT 0336
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM DEL-SIN FLT 0403
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-DEL FLT 0406
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM BOM-SIN FLT 0423
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-BOM FLT 0424
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-OSA FLT 0618
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM OSA-SIN FLT 0619
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-BJS FLT 0802
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM BJS-SIN FLT 0807
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-SHA FLT 0830
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SHA-SIN FLT 0833
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-HKG FLT 0860
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM HKG-SIN FLT 0863
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM LAX-NRT FLT 0011
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM NRT-SIN FLT 0011
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM LAX-SIN FLT 0011
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-NRT FLT 0012
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM NRT-LAX FLT 0012
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-LAX FLT 0012
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM JFK-FRA FLT 0025
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ Z REQUIRED FROM JFK-FRA FLT 0025
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM JFK-SIN FLT 0025
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ Z REQUIRED FROM JFK-SIN FLT 0025
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM JFK-FRA FLT 0026
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ Z REQUIRED FROM FRA-JFK FLT 0026
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM JFK-SIN FLT 0026
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ Z REQUIRED FROM SIN-JFK FLT 0026
IF VIA LX A- FARES
VIA SQ A REQUIRED WHEN OFFERED
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ Z REQUIRED WHEN OFFERED
IF VIA LX ALL FIRST
VIA SQ Y REQUIRED
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-MEL FLT 0217
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM MEL-SIN FLT 0218
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-SYD FLT 0221
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SYD-SIN FLT 0222
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-SYD FLT 0231
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SYD-SIN FLT 0232
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-AKL FLT 0285
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM AKL-SIN FLT 0286
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-LON FLT 0308
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM LON-SIN FLT 0317
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM LON-SIN FLT 0321
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-LON FLT 0322
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM ZRH-SIN FLT 0345
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-ZRH FLT 0346
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM DEL-SIN FLT 0403
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-DEL FLT 0406
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM BOM-SIN FLT 0423
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-BOM FLT 0424
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-OSA FLT 0618
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM OSA-SIN FLT 0619
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM TYO-SIN FLT 0637
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-TYO FLT 0638
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-BJS FLT 0802
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM BJS-SIN FLT 0807
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-SHA FLT 0830
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SHA-SIN FLT 0833
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-HKG FLT 0860
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM HKG-SIN FLT 0863
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM JFK-FRA FLT 0025
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM FRA-SIN FLT 0025
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM JFK-SIN FLT 0025
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-FRA FLT 0026
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM FRA-JFK FLT 0026
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-JFK FLT 0026
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ A REQUIRED WHEN OFFERED
IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST
VIA SQ D REQUIRED
VIA SQ K REQUIRED FLTS 0001-0999
 
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